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    Two days before this conversation, Sarah Jakes Roberts fractured her neck in three places jumping on a trampoline with her daughter. Touré Roberts still showed up. In this episode, Touré sits down with Lecrae hours after learning his wife wouldn't need emergency surgery — still processing the fear, still breaking down twice a day, still on a book tour. What he shares is raw, unfiltered, and completely different from anything you've seen from him on a stage. They go deep on what it's really like to build a life and a ministry with Sarah, how Bishop Jakes' famous first question changed everything, and what Touré's new book Knowing: The Journey to Certainty in an Uncertain World has to say about finding clarity when everything around you is loud and uncertain. Plus: the bullet that moved in his chest at 16, why he almost walked away from business to follow God, and the tension between being the man behind a rising force and knowing exactly who you are. _______________________________________________ Go to myskylight.com to save $30. Your family needs to be in sync. Stay hydrated throughout your day. Use code lecrae for 20% off at dripdrop.com Sign up for your $1/month trial today at shopify.com/deepend Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping during the Memorial Day Sale at BollAndBranch.com/deepend _______________________________________________ Step Into Reconstruction: https://reconstruct-u.com/ 📱Connect with us on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/ 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae Stream the Deluxe Album: https://music.apple.com/us/album/reconstruction/1828052699 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ _______________________________________________ 0:00 "You Got My Daughter's Heart in Your Hands" 1:14 Welcome to the Deep End 2:17 Growing Up in Watts 3:51 The Gang That Told Him to Leave 5:58 Shot at 16. The Bullet Moved. 9:10 Black Panther Parents 11:26 Don't Give Up Before You Grow Up 16:58 From Data Centers to the Pulpit 21:16 The Year He Had Everything and Was Dying Inside 23:10 Why He Parked His Car Down the Street Before Church 28:46 What the Bible Actually Says About Wealth 35:12 The Church Sees Heathens. Jesus Saw Harvest. 37:55 Sarah Broke Her Neck Two Days Before This 43:34 Ella Called First. She Saved Sarah's Life. 45:12 How They Met (She Shot First) 52:05 The Age Gap and the Come-Up Accusations 56:13 Two Meetings With Bishop Jakes 1:00:17 "I Know What's Right With You. Tell Me What's Wrong." 1:06:19 Taking Over the Potter's House 1:09:08 The Three Covenants They Made Before Saying Yes 1:10:10 His 9-Year-Old Daughter Wrote the Foreword 1:13:46 Trace It. Train It. Trust It. 1:17:02 Stillness Is Resistance 1:19:51 Closing
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