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    People keep comparing ICE to the Gestapo. But is that the right historical analogy? We talk with public historian Ashley Baron aka @ashleytheebarroness who went viral making the argument that the comparison overlooks a home-grown analogy – slave patrols. We also speak with Claire Aubin who is a Nazi-era historian and host of the podcast, This Guy Sucked, to break down what the Gestapo actually was — and why the ideology behind it matters more than any one-to-one comparison. You can find Ashley Barron at @ashleytheebarroness on IG, and Claire Aubin's podcast "This Guy Sucked" here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-guy-sucked/id1800530353 CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 01:23 Ashley Baron’s viral video on ICE & slave patrols 07:00 The laptop I use to bring up old shit 08:59 Why are we comparing ICE to the Gestapo? 16:41 The ideology and political violence that ties these things together 24:44 Moving forward from ICE in the future. 31:51 ICE is racism, and it needs to be stamped out. 32:32 Credits #ice #history
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