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    Joy sits down with her girl Valeisha Butterfield, former Obama administration leader, first-ever Chief Diversity & Inclusion Officer at the Recording Academy, and founder of Seed Media for a conversation that goes ALL the way in. They're talking about the power of audacity and why Joy refuses to be humble before other humans, what's really happening with culture, art, and music right now, navigating entrepreneurship after leaving corporate life, dating after divorce (including a WILD hiking story you won't see coming), love bombing, why men do exactly what they want, the "girlboss" myth, sisterhood as survival, what it means to be a Black woman in this current moment, and a whole lot more. 0:00 — Intro: Joy introduces Valeisha and teases the topics 1:02 — Audacity: Redefining the word and why mediocre men have it in abundance 3:02 — The case against humility: "I am not humble before other humans" 4:40 — Working loud: Taking credit for your work and not letting anyone swoop it 6:50 — Playing the game strategically in corporate and political spaces 7:44 — Valeisha's mom moment: The audacity to take your full maternity leave 9:29 — The girlboss myth and why the conversation is exhausting 11:34 — How scared are we? Living in unprecedented times 12:20 — Why Valeisha isn't afraid: People move where culture moves 13:44 — Is culture in a good place? Music, art, film, and who we're platforming 17:07 — Empowering creators: Pick up the camera, don't wait for the green light 19:27 — Young people, their time, and learning to live with less 23:18 — Valeisha's shift from corporate to entrepreneurship 26:57 — The one thing Joy and Valeisha cannot stand: Wasted time 27:33 — Dating after divorce: The lover girl problem 29:38 — Love bombing — why it's a red flag AND why it feels so good 33:14 — Meeting your kids: The story of the restaurant ambush 39:00 — Men in their midlife era, online illusions, and the gender war myth 44:00 — Dating apps — what worked, what didn't, and a hiking story gone left 58:40 — What's keeping Valeisha centered right now 1:00:02 — Boundaries as a muscle: Saying no to protect your peace 1:02:17 — Women relationships as the key to survival 1:06:27 — Black women, solidarity, and a direct charge to non-Black women 1:12:24 — Closing: Something has to give, and we have to be ready 1:13:47 — Outro This one hits different. Subscribe so you never miss an episode of Two Personal with Joy Taylor. Follow the show on social media: Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/twopersonalshow/ TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@twopersonalshow Follow Joy Taylor on social media Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/joytaylortalks Twitter - https://twitter.com/JoyTaylorTalks TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/joytaylortalks
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