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    Ericka Hart (she/they) is a sex educator, author, and breast cancer survivor who has spent their career arguing that pleasure isn't a luxury — it's a right that's been systematically withheld from Black, brown, queer, and disabled bodies. In this conversation, Erica and Shan trace the throughline from childhood activism that was never a choice, to being expelled from Peace Corps for loving who they loved, to the night they disclosed a double mastectomy mid-hookup and got the response that became their whole love story: "titties, I don't care." They talk about going topless at Afropunk and getting turned into "inspiration porn" instead of being seen as desirable, and about the gap between the two: being praised for surviving versus being wanted for who you actually are. Erica shares what it actually means to write a book, Nasty Work, for the most marginalized people, because when you center the people the world has held least, everybody gets to see themselves. This is a conversation about reclaiming a body the world has always tried to act on instead of let you inhabit, and what it costs, and what it feels like, to do that work on your own terms, even when it's still in progress. CHAPTERS 00:00 Trailer 00:54 Meet Ericka Hart, Author of Nasty Work 03:11 What Makes the Work Nasty? 03:50 Activism, Not by Choice 04:44 Peace Corps 05:40 The Brady Vortex 06:25 Who Benefits From Your Ignorance 07:54 What Sex Ed Leaves Out 09:57 Pleasure Is a Continuum 13:06 Meeting Ebony on Tinder 14:55 Intermission 17:45 Sex Feels Like Worship 19:10 Playing Double Dutch 22:24 Activism: Calling and Curse 22:57 AfroPunk 25:27 Becoming Someone's Inspiration Porn 27:16 Is Ebony the Rock? 28:16 On Being a Sexual Being 32:21 The Fruits of Nasty Work Follow Ericka Hart Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ihartericka/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ihartericka1 Website: https://ihartericka.com/ Book: Nasty Work: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/238226976-nasty-work Listen to Hoodrat to Headwrap (with Ebony Donnley): https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/hoodrat-to-headwrap-a-decolonized-podcast/id1279429651 Want more LOVERS? Follow Shan on Instagram → http://instagram.com/shanboodram Get a free weekly Love Letter from Shan → http://loversbyshan.com/newsletter Join the Lovers Community → https://www.loversbyshan.com/community Explore free quizzes + worksheets → http://loversbyshan.com/quizzes ________________________ Advertising & Other Inquiries: team@loversbyshan.com
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