Dr. Umar goes off on the Cheyenne Bryant degree controversy and exposes a much bigger issue—claiming he knows at least 10 Black public figures using “Doctor” without real doctorates. Dr. Umar Johnson goes off on the controversy surrounding Cheyenne Bryant’s doctorate and reveals that she may be far from the only public figure whose credentials should be questioned. During this explosive conversation, Loon asks Dr. Umar directly where he stands on Cheyenne Bryant’s degrees being called into question. Umar breaks down the hell he went through to earn his own doctorate, including racism, years of delays, completing his dissertation and graduating from an American Psychological Association-accredited program. But the conversation takes a major turn when Umar claims he knows at least 10 Black public figures in the social-media space who use the title “Doctor” without actually holding a doctorate. According to Dr. Umar, some of the biggest educators, elders, pastors and public personalities in the culture are hiding behind questionable credentials and honorary titles—but nobody is investigating them with the same intensity. Loon refuses to let the conversation end there. He presses Dr. Umar on whether questioning Cheyenne Bryant’s credentials should be considered tearing down a Black woman—or whether public figures should be forced to prove the professional titles they use. Dr. Umar then addresses: • Cheyenne Bryant’s questioned doctorate • Ten other Black “doctors” nobody investigates • Fake and honorary doctorates in Black media • Why certain public figures are selectively exposed • His own six earned degrees • The attacks on his credentials • His confrontation with Roland Martin • The difference between a life coach and licensed psychologist • Whether Cheyenne Bryant misled clients • Why pastors hide behind honorary degrees • Black educators using titles they did not earn • Loon challenging Umar’s position • Umar possibly returning to law school Is Cheyenne Bryant only the beginning of a much larger fake-doctor scandal? Should Dr. Umar reveal the ten Black public figures he says are using “Doctor” without holding real doctorates? And is questioning someone’s credentials accountability—or an attempt to destroy them publicly? Watch the complete exchange and decide for yourself. Subscribe to It’s Up There for fearless interviews, cultural breakdowns and conversations that go where other platforms will not. #DrUmarJohnson #CheyenneBryant #itsuptherepodcast 00:00 Cheyenne Bryant’s Degree Controversy 00:31 Dr. Umar Explains Earning His Doctorate 01:42 Life Coach vs. Licensed Psychologist 02:28 Loon Challenges Dr. Umar’s Position 03:12 Is the Backlash Really About Her Degree? 04:18 Dr. Umar Addresses His Own Credentials 05:20 Is Questioning Credentials Tearing Someone Down? 06:06 Dr. Umar Calls Out Selective Morality 07:02 “I Can Name 10 Other Black Doctors” 07:43 Honorary Degrees and Black Pastors 08:03 Dr. Umar’s Six Earned Degrees 08:20 Dr. Umar Considers Law School 08:36 The Problem With Black Lawyers Join Our Its Up There Podcast Clip Channel now https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEh6Wk40kcNcMJ4t_jtmluw Discord https://discord.gg/GJKXMWQS For all exclusive interviews & more content not here click here https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🚨Unreleased Interviews https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast 🦺All Merch Options teespring.com/its-up-there-podcast-merch 🎧LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Jheeb8FxYVDRo8khyrz36?si=e339dD2JRte2MYX2Uon3BQ 👀 SUBSCRIBE HERE:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw 👂 LISTEN ON APPLE PODCASTS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/its-up-there-podcast/id1317524092?uo=4 👣FOLLOW ITS UP THERE PODCAST HOST : INSTAGRAM | fogfo_looney TIKTOK | https://www.tiktok.com/@fogfo_looney PATREON| https://www.patreon.com/itsuptherepodcast SUBSCRIBE TO Youtube Channel ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_GorAVekpEVDlk1Yc8giw WATCH MORE ➡️ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwNIuOcAtoo&list=PLnwwxLxHiDWayq4HPgNYUtsAGvqe3liOO